I hope you’re right, but I fear TrumpElon may last awhile — these two stable geniuses need each other. Good example is Ukraine, where Trump can use Starlink as a club to force Zelenskyy into making concessions.
Oh, well I do kind of hope Zuckerberg and Bezos and even Sam Altman live to regret their kowtowing to him. Maybe we'll get rid of all the stupid rich guy rocket stuff and AI in the process.
More people need to understand the real power dynamics in play here. "Musk’s sway, while extraordinary, is also fleeting. Snatching it away is as easy as slamming the Wendy’s Baconator button on the Resolute Desk."
Can you please provide insight into how we rise? Is all I know to do is follow the laws in my state and protest. Although, Trump has been cited asking if protesters can be shot.
Good question. I wrote something that addresses that. It doesn't get into protest-related specifics. But it does show that protest, above all else, is what's most likely to get us out of this. Hope it helps. https://www.readthedetox.com/p/trump-can-be-stopped
I don’t think Trump cares that much about making presidential decisions. I think he already got what he wanted which is to stay out of prison. Beyond that I think he’s happy to leave the domestic policy decision making up to someone else, someone he thinks is smart and is as spiteful as he is on similar issues. If Musk does get tossed aside it won’t be because Trump has become alert enough to formulate a plan to do it. It will be because a new power hungry player has whispered ideas into Trump’s ear and now he begins pulling Trump’s strings. Most likely suspect will be Thiel with or without Vance as the messenger.
This completely overlooks the already-established reality of the Network State project -- Elon Musk isn't just one person, he's a part of a movement over a decade in the making that controls most of the money on earth, most of the tech in existence as well as that yet to be developed, and more power than most of the world's autocrats put together. If it were only Elon, you'd be right. But it's not only Elon. He's just one player in the technoligarch mafia, a cadre of elite eugenicist thugs sans morals or limits, and they could eat Trump for breakfast any day of the week without any of us noticing -- who do you think controls the internet and AI... and why do you think they made sure JD Vance is the VP?
I agree that Elon has a more global interest with the tech world than we know. He may be banned from the US but that will only enrage him more as seen in his reaction to Biden's rejection of him. While Elon is not a genius he has access to them and $.
It’s Peter Thiel (Vance’s overlord) who is the real threat. Musk, Bezo, Altman and the like fanboys are just that. Thiel is smart enough to fly under the radar and allow Vance to stick his head out. Thiel is the most frightening. Thiel and Vance are big believers in Curtis Yarvin… I shudder to even type that name.
If history has taught us anything, it’s that oligarchs are only useful to authoritarians until they’re not. Musk, and his fellow billionaire class, seem to think they can ride the tiger of Trumpian authoritarianism, using their wealth, influence, and Silicon Valley libertarian fantasyland politics to game the system in their favor. But the thing about authoritarianism is that it doesn’t play by the rules.
For years, America’s billionaires have purchased policy, securing tax breaks, deregulation, and unfettered market power. They’ve thrived in an oligarchic system where money dictates governance. But they’ve deluded themselves into thinking that Trump’s strain of authoritarianism is just an exaggerated version of what they already know. That’s a fatal miscalculation. An oligarchy allows wealth to dictate power, while an autocracy allows power to dictate wealth; and Trump doesn’t give a damn about property rights if they stand in the way of his personal ambitions.
Everyone in Canada hates Elon Musk but he may be the only one educating DT what tariffs will do to US supply chain, economy and Stock Market. Elon spoke “very strongly” 😁against them on Joe Rogan Podcast. Tariffs are on pause again today ( day of Trump cabinet meeting incl Elon).
They are coming to the world it is the financial plan called the Mar a Lago Accord. Explained nauseatingly in a podcast by Macrovoices .com episode 467 with Jim Bianco of Bianco Research. 🧐 it is the most terrifying and fascinating thing I have heard yet. It is what is coming if he can get there, and it is horrible
My only question to the author (or anyone else who may know) is: is there another example of a plutocrat who has wielded this much power over—not just the government “machine”—but also over ALL of our data and our government’s data systems? I mean, IDK anything about data systems engineering, but is it possible that’s he’s embedded leverage into the systems that he’s had access to in order to protect himself? Like a poison pill. So that if X happens to Elon, Y happens to some govt system that wreaks havoc/causes chaos? I’m just wondering how terrified I should be. I’m, like, at a 6 when I think about how vulnerable we are to our adversaries right now because of vulnerabilities introduced into our data systems by Musk and DOGE.
The example of Turkey should be investigated more carefully, how the juridical system was transformed into an instrument in the hands of the authoritarianism, how all media was forced to be handed over to new owners, how oligarchs who did now conform to the regime were eliminated....
You are wrong. Without a doubt, Musk and his minions have installed software throughout the government bureaucracy that allows them to control systems on his own, with or without Trump's approval. Trump may go away, but Musk's system of control will remain, unless and until his software is uninstalled -- if that is even possible.
You are wrong. Without a doubt, Musk and his minions have installed software throughout the government bureaucracy that allows them to control systems on his own, with or without Trump's approval. Trump may go away, but Musk's system of control will remain, unless and until his software is uninstalled -- if that is even possible.
I hope you’re right, but I fear TrumpElon may last awhile — these two stable geniuses need each other. Good example is Ukraine, where Trump can use Starlink as a club to force Zelenskyy into making concessions.
Oh, well I do kind of hope Zuckerberg and Bezos and even Sam Altman live to regret their kowtowing to him. Maybe we'll get rid of all the stupid rich guy rocket stuff and AI in the process.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Maybe the next Dem administration will actually throw these fucks in prison. Zuckerberg literally bribed Trump and called it a settlement.
A competent government would seize their assets and throw them in jail (or deport them in Elon’s case.)
More people need to understand the real power dynamics in play here. "Musk’s sway, while extraordinary, is also fleeting. Snatching it away is as easy as slamming the Wendy’s Baconator button on the Resolute Desk."
Can you please provide insight into how we rise? Is all I know to do is follow the laws in my state and protest. Although, Trump has been cited asking if protesters can be shot.
Good question. I wrote something that addresses that. It doesn't get into protest-related specifics. But it does show that protest, above all else, is what's most likely to get us out of this. Hope it helps. https://www.readthedetox.com/p/trump-can-be-stopped
https://twvme.substack.com/p/start-small-and-scale-organizing
and this one: https://twvme.substack.com/p/ethical-chaos-a-users-guide
There are a couple of others as well...
And this to protect yourself from digital abuse/threats
https://open.substack.com/pub/landfamilyhome/p/a-household-guide-for-cyber-defense?r=1oaym2&utm_medium=ios
This!
https://open.substack.com/pub/ladylibertie/p/the-new-midnight-riders-how-to-build?r=1oaym2&utm_medium=ios
I don’t think Trump cares that much about making presidential decisions. I think he already got what he wanted which is to stay out of prison. Beyond that I think he’s happy to leave the domestic policy decision making up to someone else, someone he thinks is smart and is as spiteful as he is on similar issues. If Musk does get tossed aside it won’t be because Trump has become alert enough to formulate a plan to do it. It will be because a new power hungry player has whispered ideas into Trump’s ear and now he begins pulling Trump’s strings. Most likely suspect will be Thiel with or without Vance as the messenger.
I've alluded to the same here: https://lucidreveries.substack.com/p/sovietization-20?r=39rxt5 but you've explained a myriad times better.
This completely overlooks the already-established reality of the Network State project -- Elon Musk isn't just one person, he's a part of a movement over a decade in the making that controls most of the money on earth, most of the tech in existence as well as that yet to be developed, and more power than most of the world's autocrats put together. If it were only Elon, you'd be right. But it's not only Elon. He's just one player in the technoligarch mafia, a cadre of elite eugenicist thugs sans morals or limits, and they could eat Trump for breakfast any day of the week without any of us noticing -- who do you think controls the internet and AI... and why do you think they made sure JD Vance is the VP?
https://www.vcinfodocs.com
https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/
https://washingtonspectator.org/the-wide-angle-elon-musk-and-the-american-endgame/
I agree that Elon has a more global interest with the tech world than we know. He may be banned from the US but that will only enrage him more as seen in his reaction to Biden's rejection of him. While Elon is not a genius he has access to them and $.
It’s Peter Thiel (Vance’s overlord) who is the real threat. Musk, Bezo, Altman and the like fanboys are just that. Thiel is smart enough to fly under the radar and allow Vance to stick his head out. Thiel is the most frightening. Thiel and Vance are big believers in Curtis Yarvin… I shudder to even type that name.
If history has taught us anything, it’s that oligarchs are only useful to authoritarians until they’re not. Musk, and his fellow billionaire class, seem to think they can ride the tiger of Trumpian authoritarianism, using their wealth, influence, and Silicon Valley libertarian fantasyland politics to game the system in their favor. But the thing about authoritarianism is that it doesn’t play by the rules.
For years, America’s billionaires have purchased policy, securing tax breaks, deregulation, and unfettered market power. They’ve thrived in an oligarchic system where money dictates governance. But they’ve deluded themselves into thinking that Trump’s strain of authoritarianism is just an exaggerated version of what they already know. That’s a fatal miscalculation. An oligarchy allows wealth to dictate power, while an autocracy allows power to dictate wealth; and Trump doesn’t give a damn about property rights if they stand in the way of his personal ambitions.
What do you mean by America's civil society?
Everyone in Canada hates Elon Musk but he may be the only one educating DT what tariffs will do to US supply chain, economy and Stock Market. Elon spoke “very strongly” 😁against them on Joe Rogan Podcast. Tariffs are on pause again today ( day of Trump cabinet meeting incl Elon).
They are coming to the world it is the financial plan called the Mar a Lago Accord. Explained nauseatingly in a podcast by Macrovoices .com episode 467 with Jim Bianco of Bianco Research. 🧐 it is the most terrifying and fascinating thing I have heard yet. It is what is coming if he can get there, and it is horrible
My only question to the author (or anyone else who may know) is: is there another example of a plutocrat who has wielded this much power over—not just the government “machine”—but also over ALL of our data and our government’s data systems? I mean, IDK anything about data systems engineering, but is it possible that’s he’s embedded leverage into the systems that he’s had access to in order to protect himself? Like a poison pill. So that if X happens to Elon, Y happens to some govt system that wreaks havoc/causes chaos? I’m just wondering how terrified I should be. I’m, like, at a 6 when I think about how vulnerable we are to our adversaries right now because of vulnerabilities introduced into our data systems by Musk and DOGE.
JP Morgan!
Your gonna have to explain more than a hand waving “civil society” as an effective means to oppose trump
The example of Turkey should be investigated more carefully, how the juridical system was transformed into an instrument in the hands of the authoritarianism, how all media was forced to be handed over to new owners, how oligarchs who did now conform to the regime were eliminated....
You are wrong. Without a doubt, Musk and his minions have installed software throughout the government bureaucracy that allows them to control systems on his own, with or without Trump's approval. Trump may go away, but Musk's system of control will remain, unless and until his software is uninstalled -- if that is even possible.
You are wrong. Without a doubt, Musk and his minions have installed software throughout the government bureaucracy that allows them to control systems on his own, with or without Trump's approval. Trump may go away, but Musk's system of control will remain, unless and until his software is uninstalled -- if that is even possible.