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Magnus Fiskesjo's avatar

Let's face it. All these arguments apply to China's genocide against the Uyghurs. The unavoidable conclusions are 2:

International law now no longer applies to the powerful and wealthy, or those with powerful wealthy backers. The world grants them impunity and as a result, the post-Hitler world dream of international law for all, is fatally damaged.

Also, in China's case, the reason so many Westerners refuse to raise their voice and not why a single Convention member state has asked for a prosecution or tribunal against China, as the Convention obliges them to do (and, unlike Gambia on Myanmar and SA on Israel), is because:

A, China is bigger and wealthier and can fend it off with unlimited resources, buying off the Middle East, pushing massive multifront influencing propaganda, etc, so they are now above the law, also,

B, many Westerners are stuck in a faux-antiracist, actually very racist ideology, according to which the Chinese genocide perpetrators are "non-white" so they can commit as much genocide as they want because they cannot be guilty in their universe, never mind the facts.

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The intent and evidence standards to win a guilty verdict for genocide are very high (rarely explained, even by Israel’s defenders, perhaps because they fear seeming too legalistic.) An exception is this piece in the Guardian by Kenneth Roth. He believes Israel has committed genocide. But, if I follow him, he implies Israel would probably prevail under the standard in current case law, which is why he wants the court to change it. Key part starts - (“So the ICJ will likely also examine whether genocidal intent can be inferred from Israel’s conduct in Gaza …)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/24/israel-genocide-gaza

Here’s a rollicking adversarial interview with Omer Bartov. Interviewer pushes him on those points.

https://youtu.be/LEtMIWJivRc?si=BZNGulqPZGKVzcdI

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